tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30671884972933579802024-02-19T11:18:53.577-05:00Griff: A Vintage Moth BoatBillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-90131817505876861242016-05-16T17:21:00.000-04:002016-05-16T17:21:31.949-04:00 Ready to race.The boat is done. I got the Cunningham and vang set. Also got the stays adjusted and locked down. <br />
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The boat is for sale if anyone is interested...<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-78553440570981634492016-04-30T16:52:00.002-04:002016-05-22T16:37:47.616-04:00Almost doneGot some varnish on the topsides and some paint on the interior and transom. Got the floorboards installed. I glassed the back side of the floorboards to make them stiffer. I also got the sheet block installed and both of the mounting points for the hiking strap. In these old boats the strap was usually mounted across the boat anchored on the deck supports. The supports in this boat are not strong enough for that so I devised a different way. I mounted a block to the keel and then the eye strap onto that. The other end is right below the sheet block.<br />
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I finally figured out how to attache the gudgeons and traveler without a helper. I put the boat upside down on the top rack of the trailer. I could then stand up and get under the back deck. I used a vice grip to hold the captive nut while I tightened it with a screwdriver. Last part was the rudder lock. I made that out of a small chainplate.</div>
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And lastly, a centerboard for Griff. This board has a big 11 1/4 inch chord. Big boards for a vintage boat.</div>
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-87022736630668392962016-04-26T06:47:00.003-04:002016-04-26T06:47:48.906-04:00The rigI wanted to see if everything fit. I had the mast on last fall without varnish and the partner was a tight fit. Varnish adds a tiny bit so one more time. Got the floorboards fitted, stained and varnished. <br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-46233974463832915102016-04-23T16:31:00.000-04:002016-04-24T15:55:14.074-04:00We're Back!Finally got Griff off the storage rack and started to get her into racing condition. I got the mast and boom varnished and made knees to stabilize the centerboard case at the back end. I also got the rudder fitted and made some floorboards. The last thing I did was make a platform for the sheet block. Hopefully this boat will race at Brigantine NJ in June.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-71233541291360557052015-11-28T16:08:00.000-05:002015-12-06T20:10:50.410-05:00Quarter roundsI was over an another mothboaters house a few weeks ago. He was cleaning out stuff and asked me if I wanted two short chunks of mahogany 3/8 inch 1/4 rounds. I said yes. Knew exactly where they would go. Perfect fit for the outside edge of the inner coaming. With these two chunks of wood the woodwork on this boat is done. Still have a lot of sanding and fairing plus some floorboards. <br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-71766388432249709812015-11-27T20:14:00.000-05:002015-11-27T21:12:03.876-05:00Rub railsWe are inching along with Griff. I got her in the shed and all the other boats are put away for the winter. I have a little bit of work space but I don't have too much more to do. I'll have this boat race ready by June. I made rubrails from some red oak and then stained them mahogany. Hopefully that will check the black stain that oak takes on over time. <br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-74410344163783352922015-10-26T15:58:00.000-04:002015-10-26T15:59:17.945-04:00Cockpit coamingsI finished up the coaming. I needed to make an inner coaming as I didn't install it when I did the deck. Just another brain fart. I have some mahogany 1/4 rounds that will fill the gap between deck and coaming. It will also hide the inner coaming.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-81796464776502535522015-09-25T14:28:00.002-04:002015-09-25T14:28:41.749-04:00Fit and finishI'm slowly getting the boat in order. These are the original splash boards and coaming. They don't quite fit with the new frames but I did clamp them in place and the fit apears to be reasonable. Got to do more sanding and resin work on the deck before that happens. I did get the mast partner made and installed. I used the original as a base and made a new one as a topper. Bottom is one sanding away from paint. I like the shape of this boat.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-29052901660844596232015-06-25T11:25:00.000-04:002015-06-25T15:20:31.862-04:00I'm Back!I took about a year off this project mainly because last year I received a commission to build a moth for a fellow in New York. That took most of last winter. I also built two 8 foot prams along the way. Last I left Griff she had the deck done but it was rough. I sanded the entire deck with the belt sander just to knock down the uneven spots. I then went over the entire boat with 60 grit on the orbital sander. The next process was to fill in any cracks and voids with Rockhard wood putty. That stuff is great. The next process is fiberglass but right before that I'm going to stain the deck with red mahogany. Give the boat the old school look that she needs. <br />
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The two dinks in the background.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-79489976583893864252014-05-13T15:29:00.000-04:002014-05-13T17:54:45.455-04:00Ready for sandpaperI got all the staples out. There are several moments when building a stripper that are satisfying. Two of them are when you get all the strips in place, the other is when you get all the staples out. I used a box and a half. That's over 1500 staples...<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-65312213135529696692014-05-10T15:37:00.001-04:002014-05-10T15:42:02.508-04:00StaplesIt's going to take me a year to get all the staples out! I'm just going to plod along with it. I trimmed off the excess wood and it actually looks like a boat. I also found a new feature on my camera. I kind of knew it was there but I never tried it... Doesn't work here so someone let me know if it works out there... supposed to be a video file.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-87222961625074250312014-05-09T18:06:00.001-04:002014-05-10T15:33:26.832-04:00Stripping is doneI finished up with the strips. Now the hard work starts. Getting all those staples out. I used a box and a half. Each box holds 1250 staples. We used 5 1x6x8 cedar boards. I cut the strips about 3/16 inch. I got about 19 stripes from each board. I got 7 left over. You do the math!...<br />
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After the staples I'll use the router with a straight cutting blade to trim the overhangs. Then sanding.<br />
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This is what they do around here for fun...Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-51554417895348860722014-05-06T14:59:00.001-04:002014-05-07T15:48:41.285-04:00Almost thereBetween the Alberg, the Shelley, and Griff, I'm spread thin. I got more sticks on Griff but I ran out of staples and glue. Looks like it will take one more stick of cedar from Lowe's to finish the deck. The sticks standing up are acting as wedges. That's where I ran out of staples.<br />
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Note to self: Don't put your finger right under where you shoot the staple in. It makes for little dots of blood all over the wood.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-46298643436987004912014-04-28T17:18:00.004-04:002014-04-28T17:18:55.670-04:00One half of the deckThe rest of the port side went on with out a hitch. Tape is a good clamp. Got other projects for the rest of the week so the other side will have to wait for a few days.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-74374210218242103962014-04-27T15:43:00.000-04:002014-04-27T15:43:14.327-04:00I'm back!Took a few weeks off this project in order to get the big boat ready for the water. Also started another mothboat for a fellow up in NY. The strips are going on nicely. I had to stop here because the bend at the bow was getting severe and I needed to let the glue dry before any more go on. I think I have enough strips to finish the deck. We'll see how that goes after the port side gets done.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-38311787883958865032014-04-05T15:32:00.001-04:002014-04-05T15:32:20.465-04:00Stripping the deckIt always looks like you got a lot more strips when you cut them up. But just put them on the boat and they disappear from the pile real fast. I got 26 strips on. That's a good day for me. Two hour max is my work limit with strips. They get on your nerves fast and then you start to make mistakes. Besides, I ran out of glue.<br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-30593231283756816342014-04-01T15:20:00.000-04:002014-04-01T15:23:30.813-04:00Cedar stripsA few weeks ago I got some cedar from Lowe's . Whenever I'm in the store I visit there cedar rack. They usually have a full selection of boards in most sizes. I look through the 6 inch wide pile and pull out all the best sticks. I look for minimum knots ans good color. I usually find one or two great boards. An 8 footer costs about 12 bucks. That's compared to a specialty lumber store that has clear cedar for about 4 bucks a foot. That comes to about 32 bucks for the same lumber. When it's cut up into strips you can't see the difference. The two boards gave me about 38 strips. I cut them 4 mil thick. I'll probably need two more sticks. I'm going to butt join the strips. Not going to do bead and cove. The curve is shallow, not like a canoe where you need the bead and cove to make the tight curve.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-78697184474371196872014-03-31T16:39:00.000-04:002014-03-31T16:42:11.345-04:00Mast stepFinally, we are getting some nice weather. The yard is a swamp and getting to the shed is like walking through it. I did get the mast step built. I used the peg leg from the Abbott. As you can see in the pix, Griff is a lower boat. That leg sits flush with the Abbott deck. We'll have to put them next to each other to see how much difference there is. Also put the tiller on the rudder just to see how that worked. <br />
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<br />Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-24790630233691429422014-03-30T13:39:00.003-04:002014-03-30T13:39:47.717-04:00TillerI got the face coaming installed using the old school way. I used glue and screws. I think this method is more appropriate for this boat than epoxy. Also found a tiller. It was attached to an old weather beaten rudder that came with the boat. It cleaned up well.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-47262334320498578732014-03-29T15:31:00.001-04:002014-03-29T15:31:46.454-04:00More framesSlow day here in Delaware. First fairly warm day in quite some time. Problem is it's pouring rain. I used the old deck coaming frames as a pattern for the new ones. I had a chunk of 1/4 inch ply laying around. It was the Christmas tree base or train platform. It's now part of the boat. The frames that came out has spacers on the bottom side glued in between the deck frames. I figured that they were for a screwing plate for the inner coaming/splash board. I'll make spacers and install them later. That's all I did today.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-20285810831026671462014-03-22T14:48:00.000-04:002014-03-22T15:28:50.717-04:00Frames part IIII finally glued in the deck frames. I used Titebond II wood glue. On other boats I've used thickened resin. I have used this wood glue on other projects and always liked the results. It dries fast, is waterproof, and is just as strong as the epoxy. When the glue dries, pulling it apart only breaks the wood not the joint. Going to do this on all the boat projects from now on. It's cheaper and you get the same results.<br />
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Turnbuckles. I ordered them from marinepartsdepot.com 1/4 of the price from a local sailboat store in Annapolis.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-52197194230261534642014-03-11T15:56:00.000-04:002014-03-11T15:56:08.007-04:00Frames part III solved the mismatch problem with the frame supports. Operator has a short circuit between the headphones. I used the old deck coaming to align the new frames. I saved the old part and had to glue it back together with hot glue. Worked good. I'm ready to glue these guys in. I'm going to put the center traveler back in the boat. It's not original but it was in the boat when I got her.<br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-34956053925493173462014-03-09T16:57:00.000-04:002014-03-10T08:32:27.407-04:00FramesThis was a good weekend. I spent Saturday working on the Alberg 30 and Sunday on Grff. It is quite interesting that the projects on both boats are similar except on the Alberg things are 5 times bigger! <br />
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I got all the frames cut out and fitted on the boat. Frames 1, 2, and 3 are the original. Frames 4 thu 8 and 10 are new, 9 is rebuilt. I put the coaming in just to see if I was in the ballpark. Things are looking good.<br />
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It also pays to have a bunch of clamps.<br />
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There is one interesting thing. I matched all of the frame supports and put them back in order. I have three left over with no visible place for them. I also have four spaces where frame supports go but nothing fits. This is going to take a bit to sort out. <br />
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Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13318481025743511902noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067188497293357980.post-91898106797137865572014-03-02T13:37:00.000-05:002014-03-06T18:42:50.938-05:00PaintFinally got back outside today. We have had a nasty winter. Cold, snow, wind, and then on top of that just nasty weather! There is something wrong with climate change deniers. It's 60 degrees outside right now and tonight they are predicting 15 degrees with 6-10 inches of more snow.<br />
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With that, I got the fiberglass done inside the boat to fix the longitudinal cracks in the bottom. I sanded and cleaned up as best I could and then painted the bow section black. I thought that would look good. The next thing was to paint the rest of the inside of the boat. I chose a teal green because I'm keeping the hull color which is a dark teal green. The reason you don't see the black is because I sprayed it green. I should have done all black first. The green covered much better in the bow that the rest of the boat. First coat on. I'll get to the second coat next week when the new snow melts...<br />
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The third picture is the cockpit coaming. I'm stripping that back to wood. It has about 10 coats of paint on it. <br />
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Along with the paint I installed the new CB trunk. The old trunk had been moved aft about 8 inches. I put this one back in the original location. It's now in the same location as the Abbott.<br />
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